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will get more revenue because this will grow the economy. these pro growth tax reforms, ronald reagan and thomas "tip" o'neill did it, simpson-bowles proposals it. we prepare it. lower tax rates. broaden the tax rate. that is a pro growth solution to get people to work. that gets higher take home pay and lets people keep more of what they earn. under the country code you send a bunch of your money to washington and if you do what we approve in washington we might let you keep some of it. that is picking winners and losers. >>neil: you mentioned simpson-bowles and you voted against it. >>guest: i liked that part of it. >>neil: your critics say you do not deliver the goods. >>guest: if you don't like the plan that someone put on the table, puts your plan on the table. i did that. mitt romney offered a plan. president obama has don't that. he disavoided simpson-bowles and offered no alternate. we took what we liked in simpson-bowles and added more reforms. i didn't support simpson-bowles is because it didn't address the primary driver of our debt which is health care programs. health car

republicans, he says president obama could become the democrats' ronald reagan. ers coc figure who e wl struggled through a recession and terrorized world. reshaping the economy within it, passing universal health care, strafing the ranks of al qaeda, presiding over a civil rights revolution, and then enjoying thuif recory. with me now is "newsweek's" andrew sullivan, also editor of "the dish" and also joining me is ari melber, a correspondent for "the nation." gentlemen, thank you. our main focus is on you and your big brain, andrew, my friend, cause it's hard r me to figure out what "newswe" haenoing the last few months because every front cover is different from the other one. one trashes obama. this one brilliantly i think celebrates the potential of a certain election result. intos oennk sensehow you got about the next four years given all our focus here at "hardball" and elsewhere on what's gointo happ in six weeks. >> because he, the president, has been thinking about it for four years already, d if you veeen he's always played a long game, and part of that long game was always

, ronald reagan's. on the other hand, you had the debt limit talks in 2011 where president obama in the middle of talks never, until this day, has gotten specific. we don't know if he offered to raise the medicare retirement age. we don't know how much he said he would cut medicare and enact entitlement reform. so he did the opposite. he went into a serious negotiation not as a candidate but as the president and never got specific. it's one of the reasons we never got a big debt limit deal. so i think mitt romney actually is following the reagan pattern. the question is who when it comes to real negotiation with congress will follow through and get it done. i think mitt romney would be stronger at that. the president, if he could have done it, would have done it. >> secretary reich, you said -- >> let me -- with due respect, with due respect to mr. fleischer, the fact is when ronald reagan was running we didn't have the kind of budget deficit we have right now. it's very -- >> that's not the point. >> let me just finish, i may, finish this thought -- you cann as a presidential ca

prize. what has gone wrong? when ronald reagan said that latinos were naturally republican, he met that they were aspirational and socially conservative. mitt romney seems to turn them off. he backed a law in arizona which some said was racial profiling. he called for a high-tech fence along the mexican border and struck a hard note talking about illegal immigrants. >> the answer is self deportation, people decide that they can do better work here because they don't have legal documentation. >> the campaign has put on a burst of speed, intensely targeting latinos, especially in swing states like colorado. the latest poll gives obama 70% of the hispanic vote. romney has backpedaled and the written policy with a much softer focus on illegal immigration. some say this is a chance to touch home the new message. >> throw away the rhetoric, the language that turns people off, and talk about it in a real leadership way. >> as night falls, the intense preparations are at an end. they will soon face each other for a debate but some say will shake up the race for the white house. >> so, how

into a mess, right? let's stop and think about it. >> so did ronald reagan. reagan 8 percent growth in his presidency. >> we are not debating ronald reagan. >> he had a worse economy than oba obama. he said he was inheriting it but he hasn't fixed it. we are seeing economic growth we are heading toward a recession and it's getting worse. >> we told you this yesterday stay stuned for that. right now it is time for your first degree weather update with janice dean who has more on the storms in the northeast. we don't care because it is friday. >> we made it ladies we made it. >> great through the northeast back to the ohio valley. hit or miss showers through out the day today. nothing severe in the forecast. you want to carry your umbrella just in case. across portions of texas and arkansas and ohio valley. we are seeing showers and much needed rain. we are in a severe drought situation. severe weather lifted through colorado yesterday. a lot of wet weather across the nation today. north of it that is where we are seeing the cooler drier air. >> jay leno was doing a forecast with my voice. l

, because you weren't even born in 1980. >> i was not, yeah. >> but ronald reagan, people forget, before the debate, ronald reagan was painted as this looney, right-wing fanatic that would start world war iii, dr. strangelove, and it was the debate that stuck a needle in that balloon. >> i remember it well. >> not even born yet. i mean, this is romney's chance. >> sure. >> to connect with the american people. >> to pick up on mike's point, fascinating number from the poll is this. 51% of people who said they had heard or read something about romney in the last couple weeks said what they had heard or read made them think more negatively about him. more positively, that number was 48%. they've heard him going into this debate. this provides them a chance to say, listen, that guy you saw in the video, that's not me. i'm a different type of person. he can reset in that sense. i'm sort of with al on this. i spent a lot of time over the past week watching all of romney's debates from 2002. i watched every single debate. there were five of them. i read hundreds of clips in 2002. he was against

and think about it. so did ronald reagan. >> ronald reagan, 8% growth. >> we're not debating ronald reagan. we're debating obama. >> reagan had a far worse economy than obama inherited. he said he was inheriting it and he said -- but he hasn't fixed it. >> wow. >> stephanie: wow. really reaching now, aren't you? >> they love to revise the reagan and -- as media matters has pointed out there is no comparison in terms of the economy because the fed could just change interest rates which they did, which basically fixed that economy. you know, the fed can't do anymore when you're at zero, you can't go any lower. also, the unemployment completely different story. what hannity never mentions, if you go back to -- we're going way back here. if you're going back to the closing months of the carter/reagan campaign, unemployment was going down under the last six months under jimmy carter. ronald reagan won and it skyrocketed back up. ronald reagan did not inherit climbing unemployment the way barack obama did. ronald reag

clinton. in the 1980 republican primary george bush had moment against ronald reagan, until in the debate in new hampshire, there was a moment where reagan looked strong. >> i am paying for this microphone. >> that moment helped change the campaign. >> some o some of them you can . >> read my lips. no new taxes. >> the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull, lipstick. >> other ones, you got to depend on your candidate seizing a moment you didn't expect to happen. >> there you go again. >> most moments so far this election have been poorly phrased comments. >> if you've got a business, you didn't build that. somebody else made that happen. >> i like being able to fire people that provide services to me. >> they'll put y'all back in chains. >> the media call those gaffes, but often the media don't know. when ed musky lost the '072 primary because he looked like he teared up defending his wife, everyone said candidates can't career, because that's week, but then in 2008 hillary clinton cried. >> you know, i have so many opportunities from this country. >> she began to tear up. >> don

and ronald reagan for a little perspective for us. gregg: plus, he earned a law degree, he passed the bar exam, but this young man came to the country when he was 9 years old and became an illegal immigrant. can the state deny him a law license because of his legal status? [ male announcer ] this is sheldo whose long day setting up the news starts with arthritis pain and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. gregg: welcome back to america's election headquarters, now, and a look at whether this 2012 race is resembling the presidential election of 1980. who can forget incumbent democratic president, jimmy carter, republican challenger, ronald reagan. from the economy to volatile events in the middle east, how some analysts are now comparing these two races. james rosen is in wa

. >> bill: in next weeks debate, can romney do what ronald reagan did to jimmy carter? megyn kelly has some thoughts. >> bill: caution the factor begins right now. >> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly. the likeability factor. that the subject of talking points memo. there two are kinds of voters in america those that know the issues and those that don't. emotion drives a decision and part of that equation is likeability. many people think reagan defeated carter because he came across likable while carter was distant and same thing with bill clinton and younger clinton showed more personality. bush the younger remained personally popular until the recession kicked in. right now in a popularity poll, president obama is ahead of mitt romney by throw three-points according to a new survey. after next week's debate it could change dramatically. there is no question about obama and romney realize they must come across as nice guys that is why they go on entertainment programs. >> we're is very happy you came on this a mrs. obama and brought your date? >> i brought him. he had a few minutes in his sched

four years later when, as president, he was challenged by ronald reagan. >> these are the kind of elements of a national health insurance important to the american people. governor reagan, again, typically, is against such a proposal. >> governor? >> there you go again. when i oppose medicare, there was another piece of legislation meeting the same problem before the congress. i happened to favor the other piece of legislation. >> that "there you go again" line is the line that mr. romney said he will be tempted to use himself against president obama. he of course will be tempted to use anything that will remind people of republican ronald reagan beating democrat jimmy carter in 1980. but when incumbent president george h.w. bush fumbled a question about how the national debt and the faltering economy affected him personally, president bush just could not give a personal answer to that question. but his challenger, a man named bill clinton, pounced. >> well, i've been governor of a small state for 12 years. i'll tell you how it's affected me. i have seen what's happened in this

ronald reagan in that debate? >> right. >> do you recall that? >> that's right. >> all this talk about ronald reagan and whether obama had sort of invoked the name of ronald reagan because so many democrats didn't like him or whatever. well senator obama then took the punches, explained what he said about reagan and took it back to her, keeping the anger under control, finding balance and pushing back hard just not too hard. >> it was interesting too as well you could ask the most dry mundane question, dealing with the economy. they would go back to the talking points in the attacks. it was clear they were trying to score points. fireworks. a "game change"er if you will. i want you to see here's mitt romney in a scenario that played out in the debates, the primaries with rick perry in las vegas. >> i'm speaking. i'm speaking. >> you get 30 seconds. this is the way the rules work here. in get 60 seconds and then you get 30 donds respond. anderson -- >> you say -- you knew. >> would you please wait? are you just going keep talking? let me finish what i have to say. >> all right. there's

line like in 1980 between then-governor ronald reagan and president jimmy carter. >> there you go again. >> reporter: and lloyd benson's swipe at dan quayle. >> i served with jack kennedy. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy because friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> reporter: then there are other moments that seem to say more, like george w. bush looking at his watch. >> tell you what, 10,000 bet. >> reporter: and obama's comment to then-rival hillary clinton. >> you're likeable enough. >> reporter: one thing they do agree on. the debate maybe romney's big chance. >> it's hard to be likeable when you're -- >> you've got to know obama really well. there's not a lot of room left on his canvas to paint. mitt romney, he's still got a little white space on his canvas. >> reporter: the president will be spending the first part of the week in nevada. in the meantime, romney will be campaigning in colorado, also a swing state, and playing to the role for him will be ohio senator rob portman. in the newsroom, i'm grace lee, cbs 5. >> and, of course, cbs 5 will have special live

. that will take you right to a page for ronald reagan vs. jimmy carter. the commercials are 30 seconds or a minute that they summarize what was going on in the campaign to tell us what the main issues are. they were not intended to last as a historical record or if you look at years and years later. these are really important historical archives. >> these were made for the obama campaign. >> a democratic cookie cutter. >> what you see behind us is just a sampling of some of the material that we collected from the last two conventions. >> it is on a table in a room that is our reference collection. full complete collection of the record for american politics and it goes back to george washington. >> this whole row of materials is made up of campaign buttons. this is from the mckinley campaign from 1896 until 1900. >> every four years ago out on the campaign trail and rebuild it out with contemporary material. >> some of these were passed by a local delegation. you go to the local primaries and we go to the national convention. it is the buttons, the posters, the signs, the funny hats people wear. w

carter led governor ronald reagan in the polls but one line from reagan in their only debate put carter on the defensive and make a mantra for future challengers to an incumbent. >> are you better off than you were four years ago? >> reporter: in 1984 reagan now the incumbent did it again. after seeming to lose his way in the first debate with walter mondale, the 73-year-old reagan diffused the issue with one well timed quip. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i will not exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. [ laughter ] >> one liners like those are far and few in between. historians says it's not what the candidates say that usually matters the most. >> less important than what they say is how they appear. do they treat their rival with respect. do they connect with the audience? do they respond at the moment when they have to react? how do they look? how do they seem? >> reporter: during the first-ever televised debate richard nixon chose to wear no makeup. with a 5:00 shadow he looked sweaty and uncomfortable compared to the tanned, relax

of that world, i would do it. a sidestep, we will see. >> j.k. rowling's latest venture. president ronald reagan once called him a national treasure. singer andy williams was one of the most enduring stars of the 1960's and 1970's. he has died at age 84. ♪ moon river >> he was best known for moon river, the oscar-winning song which featured -- which was featured in the film "breakfast at tiffany's." he died at home in missouri, a year after being diagnosed with cancer. you can find constant updates on our website. from all of us here at world news america, thank you for watching. see you tomorrow. >> make sense of international news at bbc.com/news. >> funding for this presentation was made possible by the freeman foundation of new york, stowe, vermont, and honolulu, newman's own foundation, relationship managers work hard to understand the industry you operate in, working to nurture new ventures and help provide capital for key strategic decisions. we offer expertise and tailored solutions in a wide range of industries. what can we do for you? >> "bbc world news" was presented by kcet, los an

talk about a president, and compared him to both bill clinton, a democrat, and ronald reagan a republican, and how, you know, it was always ronald reagan and at thi tip o'l they could get along, make progress. bill clinton would talk anybody, be working out a deal. this president doesn't have those relationships. now we see the situation on what's going on in banghazi. two dead, navy seals. an ambassador. we haven't had an ambassador killed in 30 years. another person is dead. all of these embassies, consulates, have been raided, flags ripped down and burned. we're finding this president wasn't engaged with arab leaders either. >> well, "the new york times" had a story just a couple days ago saying exactly that. and this is the difficulty at home. for some -- i mean, take the president's own party. harry reid, the democrat. the leader of the senate, the second most powerful democrat in washington. he goes down to the white house and to wake the president up he has to use his chief of staff to tell him, i'm disappointed in you, the president, in the oval office, that we didn't

moment from the 1984 presidential debate between ronald reagan and walter mondale? >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. [ laughter ] >> dana: bob beckel was running mondale's campaign at the time. what did he think when he heard that line? he's going to tell us. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> greg: love that tom petty. so, it only took three weeks for administration to agree the libya attack was not spontaneous. you got to wonder where obama finds the staffers. i haven't seen this many clowns since ringling brothers had a job fair. who was the source who said the video caused all of this? video no one heard of until after the attacks. it's not a question. it's a scandal. it points to intellectual corruption of the highest order. deep desire to blame america for evil in the world while excusing the real perpetrators. breaking the paperclip i'm so angry. it's a question that changes an election. we can't remember how the media enabled this. i remember one guy getting it right. >> freedom of speech is onl

happen to subscribe to ronald reagan's maxim that peace comes through strength. i want to have a military that's so strong no one wants to test it. you see, you want to -- >> president obamand mitt romney both making their case to veterans in rginia today. the president talking about ending our trillion-dollar wars, at least eventually, and his opponent talking about ronald reagan. joining us now, john stanton, washington bureau chief at "buzz feed" and it's been way too long since we've had you on show. congratulations on your move,vy way, how is "buzz feed"? of th yid around the convention is you greyhound bused down there, and sort of went out of your way to talk to regular on the street folks who were not necessarily getting, having their opinions plundered by pundits. en you're doing sort of "man on the street" talking to people about politics, do people ever talk about the wars? >> they do. talking, particularly, i was in savannah and talkingo church people that were feeding the working poor and homeless people. there were a lot of veterans there. some of the peop i talked to eyl t

of the history starts in 1980. an independent candidate for president runs against jimmy carter and ronald reagan. president jimmy carter absolutely opposed john anderson's participation, and the league had a choice. do they support the independent candidate's participation or do they capitulate to the demands of jimmy carter? the league did the right thing, they stood up for the united states and invited john anderson. passed for four years later. the walter mondale and ronald reagan campaign's vetoed 80 of the moderator that the league of women voters have proposed for the debates. never try to get rid of difficult questions. 8-0. 80. the league then held a press conference and lambast the campaigns for trying to get rid of the difficult questions. of course there was an outcry. the result was fantastic. for the next debate, the campaign were required to accept the lead's moderators. four more years later and you have the michael this caucus and george bush campaign's drafting the first ever 12-page secret debate contract. they gave it to the league of women voters and said implement this. they

's troubles. the press didn't treat ronald reagan and george w. bush any less unfairly, and both men managed not onlyo win the presencyutge re-elected. mr. romney would do better to focus more on reducing his unforcedrrors and less on the fourth estate's political bias. ifhining about the liberal media was a winning strategy for republicans, newtingrich wou be t mi" well, and newt gingrich is a great example -- i don't mean to go back there -- a great example of the problem we're talking about here. because -- >> no. >> -- no, instead of stepping forward and separating himself from this candidate, he somehow, becausof his party -- at distraction.. >> it is. >> i'm talking about the presidential race. we're one week out from the first presidential debate, and we have brand-new polling out this morning from three separate swing states that show this race is slipping away. >> and they're the big e. andhey' tigth mika. >> yes, they are. are you ready? >> i'm ready for you to talk about the presidential race. >> zip it. according to the latest quinnipiac university/new york times/cbs news poll of

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. former assistant of commerce for george h.w. bush and special assistant to ronald reagan. not the best image management. you specialize in crisis management. some compare to marie antoine e antoinette. all these cuts coming on and he's walking around smoking a stogy. >> a woman is a woman, because good cigar is a smoke, i say. >> you you may say that, but doesn't go down very well. >> you can't smoke inside, so i guess he figured he had to take the opportunity. it probably isn't the best image for a national figure to be smoking at all let along in public, let alone during a crisis, let alone on the streets of man hat continue. let's put a positive spin on it. perhaps it is his way of helping control his nerves. >> this is a prime minister that come and has promised all sorts of things when he got elected. once that starts happening, how on earth do you control it from a crisis management pr perspective? >> if we could control it, we'd all be rich. what we tried to do, what i'm sure his advisers are trying to do is to keep him cool, keep him focused. they've made a lot of announcement

of the fabric of who the person is. when ronald reagan said there you go again, it was completely natural to him. as you know, chris, carter was right, he had opposed medicare at the start but when reagan said, there you go again, it actually sort of discounted everything else that carter had said in that debate. so they've got to be organic, they've got to be natural, they've got to be real. i think everybody at least in the political class who has seen this report is going to be watching the debate to see if we can sort of tick off, oh, that was the prepared zinger. did he bring it off? >> oh, yeah. >> the other thing is he's not very good at this. i mean, you know, i know they don't want him to be spontaneous because he'll say the wrong thing, but delivered a prepared funny line seems to me to be one of the hardest tasks probably even harder than telling us what's in his tax plan. >> as a journalist, joan, i want your view. suppose you're watching the debate as we all will be, everybody is going to be watching wednesday night, and you see what is obviously is prefab zinger that doesn't even s

, everybody always remembers the great zingers. you know, usually something from ronald reagan, but here we go again expecting that people are going to try a little bit too hard. there's a real danger when you've been supplied with premixed, ready-made zingers to insert into the debate that mitt romney will insert them at the wrong time or say them not quite right. the only thing worse than having no zinger is having a zinger that comes off badly and comes back to bite you. so i think that's a perilous way to go, but i'll be there in denver, and i look forward to the attempts because it will make it far more interesting. >> indeed. we're delighted, ron, that you're here. you have devealed to us for the first time that you have prepped with mitt romney previously. >> i have. >> tell us a little bit about that. >> well, it was a remarkable experience. it was the 2008 campaign when he was running in the primaries. he assembled a smart group of folks to go up and run him through the paces. that was in anticipation of the first debate on msnbc mott rated by chris matthews. each person had a role, i

from ronald reagan that wounded jimmy cartener 1980. in the documentary "debating our destiny" jim went back to talk to candidates about their experience of the debates and had the chance to ask whether they prepared famous lines ahead of time. >> lehrer: i asked ronald reagan about, "there you go again," and a couple of others. "no, no, it just came to me." >> no it just seemed to be the thing to say and what he was saying up there. >> brown: did you believe him? >> lehrer: i don't know if i did or i didn't. i found it interesting that nobody wants to admit. >> brown: another major moment came in 2000 with vice president al gore rolling his eyes and loudly sighing during his debate with then-texas governor george w. bush. the whole world knew it,Ñi excet for the third man on the stage that night inÑi boston. >> you didn" know it was happening. >> lehrer: i didn't know it because under my personal rules, i ask candidatasm a question, ii look only at candidate a. i never look atÑi candidate b., because i don't want to be involved in eye contact to help in any way affect the response

with ronald reagan and the fact that we were all together on the fact that carter had won it. so few of us know who won wednesday night. listen for the focus groups. we're going to have one here at midnight and see how it's going. don't think that's going to be the last word. back in 2000, the establishment group believed that al gore beat george bush in that debate. go back and watch that and you will laugh and the genuine article. it's not exactly fair the debate itself. richard nixon had to stand on the same stage with jack kennedy. reagan never said what he would do to spring the hostages. that was tough enough, wouldn't you say? against pesky ross perot as well. john mccain had to defend

it and after it will matter. the 1980 carter debate with ronald reagan where he said there you go again, calling the sitting president a liar basically. that's when carter started collapsing. you've got a few moments to make the one-liners catch and stick. all of the substance will get lost in the minutia. romney needs one worse than the president right now. >> instead of o owe is it like trying to figure out what the zinger is going to be that will get retweeted on a hash tag? >> yes, that it is. >> it makes me so sad. >> well, yes. as you said, the stakes are higher for mitt romney. keep this mind, this is a man who has been running for president for six years. >> right. >> it's come down to this one moment, this first debate on wednesday where he's got to change the trajectory of his campaign, of the narrative with at that point, what is it 35 days in the race. >>> yeah. >> you're the political scientist here. you're the nerd here at the table. just to my mind, i do not see how practically speaking mitt romney can change the trajectory and move his campaign into a positive position w

? >> they should say do want to form war years of what you had? >> is an art ronald reagan he mentioned private army, privatization, he did not spend time on touchy-feely family and kids nor did he apologize. the mitt romney tax rate at 14%. everybody should pay that. it is fine for mitt romney and should be the same. lou: why would somebody say the white house tries to define us on taxes so project the impact on the budget deficit if everyone had been paying 14%. that would result in a mountain of cash. >> exactly. jerry brown propose this went from eight in the race to second place. he would have run if he did not name jesse jackson as the running mate. the democrats started it. lou: i meant. [laughter] that jerry brown went on that way word path. >> you never know about jerry. lou: there is the problem. >> we do know about this president but we don't know about governor romney. shame on his staff. he is then with than wonder two points of the ed dead heat. should he start talking about leadership or focus on the economy? >> he should not be apologetic. tax cuts come up broaden the base, all

is not the president. >> ronald reagan pointed missiles at the soviet union. >> when he said all options are on the table was he wrong? >> this was a long time ago when bush was dealing with iran. he was five, six, seven, eight years from dealing with it. under president obama iran has by three times increased the uranium and made it more enriched. >> well, we don't know what president obama's red line is? he won't share it with us. he want to keep it as fuzzy as possible. if he wants to do that privately to him, communicate that privately to the iatola i'm okay with that. but he wants to keep it fuzzy. >> we don't know what the president has said privately to the leader but he has said publicly acquiring a weapon is the red line. >> we know he hasn't told him about the red line. he was criticizing him for not setting the red line. he is leaving him in the dark which is a terrible mistake. >> he said we do what we must to keep iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon. >> but mitt romney used the same term. >> the reality is that is very mu fuzzy language can lead to war. there is no point ab

. >> eliot: part of the reason for this is there is this huge chasm when the imagery of ronald reagan and the reality of how he governed. the article is titled "who is driving mitt," eric bates, executive editor of "rollingstone" magazine, thank you for time you tonight. >> thank you. >> eliot: and we'll show you every clumsy thing mitt romney ever did. it's in the viewfinder coming up next. when you use lysol at home, you'll know you're a part of something bigger. for healthy tips and more, visit lysol.com/missionforhealth. >> eliot: >> eliot: still to come signs of life in the union movement lessons from the chicago teacher's strike. but you heard me say it once or twice, mitt romney is the most awkward politician ever. >> ladies and gentlemen, time for a new segment, this is called mitt romney, that's kind of a joke. watch this. ♪ >> my dad used to tell us that one year they ate nothing but potatoes, that was when they lived in idaho. even later in life my dad couldn't look a potato in the eye. kind of a joke. >> people are saying i just don't know about th

a consistent advantage over ronald reagan, but the final presidential debate changed everything leading to a reagan landslide. with polls now showing president obama building a lead over mitt romney in key battleground states, a democratic pollster and consultant who worked for jimmy carter says finding the right sample to survey can be tricky. >> we know from the exit polls and others, the republicans tend to respond to these polls less than oftentimes, particularly from news organizations, less than do democrats. >> in 1988, george bush managed a huge swing. gallup had michael dukakis leading by 17 points after the democratic convention, but lost to bush by 7.5%. in 1992, the incumbent president was down nine points in mid-september, tied with bill clinton by the end of october, though clinton eventually won. a former clinton pollster is questioning the assumptions being made in today's polls. >> these polls are assuming that you have the same high level of african american, latino, and young people vote in 2012 that you had in 2008. >> obama campaign senior advisor david axelrod told

a debate turned things around was ronald reagan's direct appeal to voters in his first and only faceoff with president jimmy carter. >> are you better off than you were four years ago? is it easier for you to go and buy things in the stores than it was four years ago? do you feel that our security is as safe? that we're as strong as we were four years ago? chris: after that, the next day's "new york times" told the story of how critical that became. the are you better off question took hold. the third time a debate turned the race around was this first debate between vice president al gore and george w. bush. the vice president hurt himself with his notorious sighs. [sighing] chris: and then in the third debate, this exchange was a killer for gore. >> the difference is that i can get it done. that i can get something positive done on behalf of the people. that's what the question in this campaign is about. it's not only what your philosophy and what's your position on issues, but can you get things done? [laughter] and i believe i can. >> what about the norwood bill? chris: never, ever

are down cast in this state. >>> bill o'reilly went on to say if mitt romney does well like ronald reagan did against jimmy carter he can immediately become the frontrunner. all things change because of this. >> an attack left four americans dead. still a big talker this morning the white house has come under severe scrutiny for the official version of what happened. the administration originally called it a spontaneous attack. >> a whole lot of folks. >> donald rumsfeld talked to greta about. he slammed the administration for the foreign policy saying it's a failed model. >> i think the foreign policy of this administration for 3 and a half, four years now has been one of a step back in the phrase that came out of the white house to lead from behind. which you can't lead from behind. leaders lead from the front. the economic management of our country has told the world that we are in decline and it was sufficient that the vice president of the united states had to go at the convention and say we are not incal decline. why did he have to say that? it is clear the country is managing its e

lost to jimmy carter. but in 1984, another incumbent, ronald reagan, used the debates to diffuse criticism of his advancing age. >> you already are the oldest president in history. >> reporter: he was 73 at the time. >> i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. (laughter) >> "i was smiling" watt walter mondale later said "but i knew he'd gotten me there." other lessons, it may be best not to start your opening statement this way. >> who am i? why am i here? >> reporter: as admiral james stockdale, ross pro's running mate did, in 1992. don't look like you have someplace better to be as president george bush did that same year when he checked his watch during a question. finally, be careful who you compare yourself to. >> i have as much experience in the congress as jack kennedy did. >> reporter: in 1988, vice presidential candidate dan quayle made that mistake against lloyd bentsen. >> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. (cheers and applause) >> reporter: in the era of scripted and st

given the possibility of what we saw in 1984 with ronald reagan and in 1980 with ronald reagan and jimmy carter where there really was a mood change. >> sure, but let's also remember that as john made reference to john kerry in 2004, he moved the needle, but he didn't move the needle nearly far enough. and the fact is that in 18 of the last 19 presidential elections whosever been leading at this point has led the popular vote. >> you remember how close kerry came, if he had won a small number in ohio, he would have been president. >> i understand that. >> and also if he had gnat gone windsurfing in nantucket. willie, the thing is, we talk about the 47% video, i'm hearing more and more people in the romney campaign as every day goes by, they understand more and more that they made a huge mistake with that libyan press conference. i'm not going to say that it was sort of that september 15th moment, the economy is sound, but john mccain last time, but i can't tell you how many pollsters are telling me that that was -- it made him look unpresidential. "the wall street journal" leading with t

and ronald reagan the second term as the productive term, the big achievement so it's hard to know whether the republican party will -- where they will push the blame if that happens, but the question is how they decide to spend the next four years and i think it's very hard to tell but there is some hope in looking back at both clinton and reagan. >> he was also a far right to limit took running the republican party at the time whoever they equivalent was a time and. but in fact he wasn't. life was a little more complicated by the fearful analogy. >> he raised taxes -- >> i think that's why the parties in opposition tend to be less responsible than parties of power. i think you probably agree. >> agree from your point of view i can think of the times when the other party the of irresponsibly in opposition and the question as it seems to me it from the is elected and you have the party that you think would be responsible and is in the position they have to govern and we will see what happens if that genuinely tends to pull the party is more towards the sector whenever someone becomes presi

and ease that ronald reagan projected and jimmy carter looked defensive. that's the impression that often lasts. >> even al gore and george w. bush is a good example of body language so much during those debates. al gore was up in the polls and had a series of very poor debate performances. >> al gore had been a very effe effective, aggressive debater. he was seen in the first debate as too aggressive. the sighs and the rest. in the second debate he was almost too laid back. by the third he had a just right approach by that time. those performances and all the other factors in the 2000 election held him back. >> humor. >> humor can be very important but it's something that has to -- some humorous lines probably are prescripted. there you go again, reagan, most people feel, was prepared. >> remember what lloyd benson said about -- >> yes. >> dan quayle. >> that famous line. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you are no jack kennedy. >> i just reread about all the debates, they prepared that line in advance because dan quayle made that comment over and over aga

reagan and carter in 1980. the confidence and ease that ronald reagan projected and jimmy carter looked a little bit defensive. that's the impression that lasts. >> even al gore and george w. bush i think is a good example of body language told so much during those debates. al gore was up in the polls and had a series of very poor debate performances. >> al gore had been a very effective, aggressive debater. in the first debate, he was seen as being too aggressive. the famous sighs and all the rest. in the second debate, he was almost too laid back. by the third he had a kind of just right approach, but by that time, those performances and all the other factors in the 2011 election held him back. >> how important is humor? >> it can be very important, but it's something that has to -- i guess some humorous lines probably are prescripted. there you go again by reagan most people feel w prepared. that, of course, is the magic. >> remember what lloyd benson said about dan quayle and president kennedy. >> yes, that was the famous line, jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no j

covered. one way to do that is to have a clever line >> schieffer: no one could deliver a line like ronald reagan. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. (laughing) >> schieffer: with those words reagan turned concern that he had gotten old and doddy on its head. challenger walter mondale said later when i heard that, i knew i had lost. what would you consider successful debate? >> the things that matter the most to the voters, to hell with the candidates and to hell with the moderators and to hell with the handlers and to hell with the pundits, but the things that voters care the most about have been discussed and have been discussed in a way that they can now understand what the differences are. that's what these debates are really all about. >> do ever get sick of each other? >> we adore each other. it's heaven. >> osgood: partners on tv and off. and later, the new season at the movies. alright everybody, get your heads up. now when i was in the military, i learned that if you stand togethe

theme in carter's campaign and blamed by many costing ford the emphasis. ronald reagan repeatedly attacked by president carter for his stance on health care. >> governor reagan, as a matter of fact, began his political career campaigning around this nation against medicare. >> reporter: reagan wins fans and the election by staying cool. >> there you go again. >> reporter: four years later president reagan again uses humor to handle attacks on his age during his debate with walter mondale. >> i want to you know that also i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> reporter: the next election, democratic candidate due can a ki dukakis is asked this question. >> if kity were raped and murdered, would you favor irrevocable death penalty for the killer? >> no, i don't. i think you know that i proposed the death penalty during all of my life. >> reporter: the public sees his answer as cold and dispassionate. that very night his poll numbers dropped. during the 1988 vice presidential debate -- >>

because of the debates. >> he did. is romney like ronald reagan? >> i don't think people thought ronald reagan was the great mane was at that time either. megyn: we have seen mitt romney in 26 debates. >> i was covering the debate in which mitt romney manhandled newt gingrich in florida. he showed he was capable of doing it. he was totally capable of doing it. megyn: we talked about this earlier, chris. mitt romney did very well in that one debate against newt gingrich, then he fired that debate coach. >> debate coaches -- the -- what he has to do is attack president obama. don't worry when the punditry says it was too mean or shallow or short on specifics. they always say that. he's got to launch an attack on president obama. he has got to weather the storm when the press says, oh, you are doing it wrong, we don't like what you are doing. so romney has to attack, attack, attack, then use that time in front of those viewers to lay out three simple points about what he wants to do. hit hard, keep it simple and get out of town. >> i want to point out the attack, attack, attack. there this

again. >> so who won? >> it's a ronald reagan win and really because he kept employing that disarming phrase there you go again. to carter he never really had an answer. he looked very awkward afterwards and that was obviously a pre-rehearsed line that reagan unleashed on carter to great effect. right now you see barack obama and mitt romney trying to find their version of their "you go again" hoping it could perhaps score some points. we're critiquing not just the speech but the body language and that little bit of interaction between the two men and there's a duel going on there that we try to decipher and phrases like that when they score are considered knock out punches. >> there was another moment of body language in 1980 when vice president al gore made an unusual move towards then governor george w. bush of texas. >> that's what the question in this campaign is about. it's not what your philosophy and your position on issues. but can you get things done. and i believe i can. >> what about the norwood bill? >> forgive me that was 2000. what did you make of that maneuver there?

that they may have with the viewers at home. ronald reagan, there you go again. bill: i think you make a great point on that. what you are saying is it's built in a format that will help encourage robust exchanges that would alloy the other to challenge the other one. megyn: we can hope. during the republican presidential primaries we had a format where you ask a question and the candidate got a minute or 30 seconds to respond. if you asked a followup you had to devote another minute to that topic. in such a limited time you felt constrained as the debate monitor. now it's the question, talking point for 2 minutes, then the discussion. hopefully we'll hear more. bill: they had a coin toss. president obama opens and romney closes. we hope it will be an open and earnest discussion about the future of america. have a great time in denver. megyn: i'll see you 1:00 p.m. eastern, too. jamie: the first televised debate among election contenders was held in 1960. jimmy carter-ronald reagan's debate claimed the largest audience so far. bill: stay with us on the fox news channel. at 8:55 eastern time, b

to be tweaked the way it was by ronald reagan and democratic speaker tip o'neil. but the basic structure is sound. but i want to talk about the values behind social security and medicare. and then talk about medicare because that's the big driver of our deficits right now. my grandmother some of you know helped to raise me. my grandfather died awhile back. my grandmother died three days before i was elected president. she was fiercely independent. she started as a secretary, ended up being the vice president of a local bank. and she ended up living alone by choice. and the reason she could be independent was because of social security and medicare. she had worked all her life, put in this money, and understood that there was a basic guarantee a floor under which she could not go. that's the perspective i bring when i think about what's called entitlements. you know, the name itself implies some sense of dependency on the part of these folks. these are folks who have worked hard. like my grandmother. and there are millions of people out there counting on this. so my approach is to say how

as ronald reagan. but it's notable that he's even trying in a campaign that's been unwilling and unable to engage america in the larger world. he's finally trying to do it. in terms of what they're going to do, on even just say the issue of war we're in right now, they have really been unwilling to engage. maybe this means they'll start. so far, i mean, famously mr. romney didn't mention the war in afghanistan at all. he explained in speeches like that you don't go through a laundry list. you go through things that are important. the war wasn't important to him. but it's not just specifically afghanistan. here's another one. if you go to mitt romney's website right now and you type the word drones into the search box on the website because you want to know his position. you will find three results. three. one result is mr. romney criticizing mr. obama after a drone crashed in iran. then there's a policy paper criticizing the obama administration for talking about drones to news outlets like "the new york times" and you have one of the is your gates for killing osama bin laden. if you wa

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. and the day after that too. >> one major goal defeat of ronald reagan in november. >>reporter: later don hosted a live morning show. [applause] and for seven years he and i were pair as anchor team. >> no. 1 in northern californi california. >>reporter: we worked together during some of the bay area biggest news event. his office is packed with momento of the stories. good and bad. >> 19 yain world series. remember? we were. >> we were anchoring. >>reporter: when the earthquake hit 7 news crew were first on the scene at the har hardest hit locations. we set up a make shift studio in the newsroom and back on the air quickly with critical information for viewers and non-stop reporting that earned a peabody award. >> that has always been my proudest moment here. not what i did but everybody who was working here did. it was extraordinary. >>reporter: don eventually became abc 7 news arts entertainment reporter. he's done hundreds of celebrity interview. made up like young franken stichbility even done a cameo on general hospital. >> there has been a shooting. >>reporter: through i

you. first there, are ebbs and flows. jimmy carter was far ahead in his election against ronald reagan, where he was beaten decessively. i think polls would show them statistically tied, tough fights in certain swing states. what governor romney is trying to do is point out the fundamental differences between his faithan an in the private sector and the president's view we should invest in companies and have more government intrusion on the economy, and we've had, frankly, a failed recovery, and then on foreign policy, whether we're going to lead from behind and have the type of turmoil in the middle east or mitt romney's position of peaceable strength and leadership can leave america better off. >> let me explain this both to you. president clinton is about to reveal what he to say about it. a really big story in new york. nothing to do with the cgi, u.n., or anything else. all about the nfl match. president obama weighed in on twitter. nfl fans on both sides hope the nf lockout will end soon. >> it was a close call. i think the rules state if you have dual possession in the end zone,

, colonel? >> ronald reagan. >> bill: no, no, no. i mean that -- you're not saying that fa serbsly? >> no, i'm not. i think romney is to a large ex tents an unknown in foreign affairs. he is a good manager and i think he would take advice from wise people. president obama is a known quantity and that known quantity has failed in every single respect in foreign policy, except the seals killing bin laden, which any president would have done. bill, look, what the president said in his well delivered empty speech at the u.n. today was exactly what he has been saying for years. we're going to talk this to death, we'll negotiate with iran. four years, negotiations have failed utterly. iran is much closer to nuclear weapons, having nuclear weapons. the world is a more dangerous place. israel is threatened. what does obama have to show for four years? >> bill: isn't the only other alternative war? a military strike? doesn't seem to be anything else that he's not doing, although i do have one thing in the back of my mind, but i'm going to hold it back. go. >> nobody wants war in the persian gulf. but

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